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Quals:
Men – Cutters or BKB
Women – DG or AOPi
ITTs:
Men – Krahulik or Martinez
Women – ?
DG?? Wild!!! Strong numbers!
BKB?? Not so much!!!
Well you were wrong on the men’s side. 3 man team took 1st? But look at times. Slow year for men’s qualifications. Look at DG Cycling Quals run video on youtube. Check out there first exchange and a clear fault.
Top Ten Returning ITT Riders From 2016
1 (1st) J. Krahulik – 2:17.24
2 (3rd) N. Thiery – 2:20.68
3 (5th) C. Hammon – 2:21.38
4 (9th) J. Hunt – 2:23.54
5 (10th) E. Schwedland – 2:24.27
6 (13th) X. Martinez – 2:25.19
7 (14th) C. Van Halen – 2:25.27
8 (15th) K. Mangel – 2:25.28
9 (16th) J. Welch – 2:25.65
10 (19th) N. Voyles – 2:26.63
Significant improvement usually only occurs once, after a riders first season. X. Martinez is a rider to watch.
X GONNA GIVE IT TO YA
FORGET PAYIN’ TO GET IT ON YA OWN X GONNA DELIVER IT TO YA
X GONNA GIVE IT TO YA WAY TOO HOT AND CAUSE A PENALTY
Mr. MX,
I belive the proper response is
KNOCK KNOCK OPEN UP THE DOOR IT’S REAL
WITH THE NON-STOP POP-POP AND STAINLESS STEEL
but to each their own.
#Data nailed it!
Damn, just got into town–what a day! Didn’t expect these Greek teams to throw it down today! Down with the geeds!! Big numbers guy here, look at the data! Excited for this whole spring series shuffle! Hoosiers!!
Men
1. Krahulik
2. Thiery
3. Martinez
4. Schwedland
5. Hammon
Women
1. Bignal
2. Huibregtse
3. Bennett
4. Malcomb
5. Oppel
Uh you’ll be lucky if 2 of those are right on the men’s side.
How do you see it ending up?
Difference between 2nd and 10th should only be 2 seconds.
Was looking for prognostication or some sort of write up? Love to read those
2:34.0 is the fastest time on the IUSF website
What is the Womens ITT record? Thanks in advance.
SAE really has NO fourth rider?!? Sure Joe, do 2 laps in Quals, but still only 3 riders in ITTs. #NoYellow #OnlyThreeGreen
Shower Thought: ITT’s are the binge drinking of cycling events. 2ish minutes of pure heart and bypassing all physical and mental barriers that tell you to stop. And afterwards you are trashed and oddly proud of yourself.
Don’t forget the vomit.. lots of vomit
Looks like Schwedland is well on track for his Master’s at the Depasse School of Bike Handling
Funniest Comment in a long time.
Neat.
Place Team Points
1 Black Key Bulls, 16
2 Cutters, 21
3 Sigma Phi Epsilon, 31
4 Beta Theta Pi, 55
5 3PH, 57
6 Gray Goat, 58
7 Forest Cycling, 99
8 Pi Kappa Alpha, 110
9 Sigma Chi, 112
10 Lambda Chi Alpha, 115
11 Bears, 116
12 Sigma Alpha Epsilon, 123
13 Jetblach, 143
14 Delta Chi, 151
15 Phi Gamma Delta, 160
16 CSF Cycling, 170
17 Alpha Kappa Lambda, 207
18 Acacia, 212
19 Phi Delta Theta, 215
20 Kappa Sigma, 233
21 Alpha Sigma Phi, 234
22 Alpha Epsilon Pi, 241
23 Beta Sigma Psi, 243
23 Black Ice Cycling, 243
23 Delta Sigma Pi, 243
23 Delta Upsilon, 243
23 Evans Scholars, 243
23 Pi Lambda Phi, 243
23 Theta Chi , 243
23 Young Life, 243
Place Team Score
1 Kappa Alpha Theta, 13
2 Delta Gamma, 26
3 Alpha Omicron Pi, 29
4 Phi Mu, 41
5 Melanzana, 58
6 SKI, 65
7 Alpha Chi Omega, 83
8 Teter, 89
9 Alpha Sigma Alpha, 92
10 Alpha Xi Delta, 102
11 Kappa Delta, 135
12 Alpha Gamma Delta, 160
13 Cru Cycling, 186
14 Theta Phi Alpha, 190
15 Sigma Kappa, 210
16 Alpha Delta Pi, 217
17 Independent Council, 231
18 Delta Sigma Pi, 240
19 Phi Gamma Nu, 247
20 Delta Phi Epsilon, 249
21 Gamma Phi Beta, 250
22 Sigma Kappa, 250
23 Alpha Epsilon Pi, 267
23 Alpha Phi, 267
23 Camp Kesem Cycling, 267
23 Delta Zeta, 267
23 Kappa Kappa Gamma, 267
23 Sigma Delta Tau, 267
23 Sweet Potato Club, 267
23 Wing It, 267
Takeaways from ITTs:
1. Martinez is the real deal. Showed it last night besting Joe K by more than 2 seconds, on what seemed to be a slow year/ slow track compared to last year. Appears BKB finally has a sprinter. Wow.
2. Cutters have the depth to go toe-to-toe with BKB. Putting 3 in the top 10 (Trevor crashing out aside) is an impressive feat for any team, especially any team that’s not BKB. In my opinion, the BKB-Cutters narrative script has been flipped: BKB has the superior sprinter and Cutters have the depth. Looking forward to the rest of Spring Series to see how the battle for white shakes out.
3. Sig Ep is the real deal. Gray Goat and 3PH, darlings of this board, did not show up when it counted. Sig Ep put 2 in the top 10, and 4 in the top 20. Meanwhile, Gray Goat and 3PH had a COMBINED 3 riders in the top 20.
4. People need to stop talking about DX. Abel placed 29th, their 2 placed 46th, 3 placed 73rd, and 4th placed 92nd. This was after qualling #30. This story is over.
5. KAO vs. DG is going to be a GREAT matchup this spring series. Bignal underperformed last night while Theta went 1-2 for riders who count towards Spring Series. Love seeing a fierce competition for white in the women’s field!
When since Eric Young have Cutters had the superior sprinter?
This board specifically has constantly praised Trevor Schwedland as the best sprinter in the field. I believe last night’s results refute that fact.
Points 2, 4, 5 seem right. Sig Ep can hang, but they’re not contenders. Also im not convinced just yet that Xavier is the premiere rider.
I think what we saw yesterday was bigger teams doing better simply because conditions were different from heat to heat so they had more oppurtunities to land guys in heats where conditions were fast.
All 4 guys in the top heat underperformed while the following two heats over performed. All I can say is that yesterday Joe was about 3 seconds faster than Thiery and that Xavier was about 3 seconds faster than his teammate Kevin. Hopefully MNO clears some of this up.
I still think Cutters has the edge over BKB, then there’s an assortment of second tier teams with different strengths and weaknesses
The weather last night was not enough to cause the 2 second gap between Xavier and Joe, their heats were about 10 minutes apart.
@king of queens, I wasn’t there. It just doesn’t seem quite right that the entire heat would do so poorly relative to their expected results. Thiery has been incredibly consistent with his itt times and finishes. There are names between Joe, Thiery, and Hammon that seem out of place.
Not trying to say you’re wrong by the way.
Would love as a fan of the race and (mediocre) IU alumni to have Quals and ITT results posted on the fan portion of the IUSF website…….and not as PDFs!!!!
ITT’s have nothing to do with race results.
From my perspective, BKB is deep as can be with X leading that team, it looked like Charlie just had a bad day. The Cutters looked strong as well and they definitely had their freshman rookie throw his ITT on purpose which was smart but obvious he did that, the kid threw down a 35 second lap in Quals and then a 35 second first lap of ITT’s and the team was yelling at him and he slowed down a lot right when they yelled at him and by the end was breathing normally and laughing, he really could have played that off better, the kid can fly. Eric crashed out but is a fast rider and everyone knows that, he can move. Overall BKB is too deep, they have more experience and should win but there are some dark horses and the Cutters will challenge and Sigep as well and Joe from SAE will pull the win if he is on the lead lap on 199.
First, Xavier is not the guy yet, one ITT does not prove that at all. A rider for BKB who isn’t even on race team beat Charlie which doesn’t say anything because it is clear Charlie is stronger. Second, That Coulter kid who’s the freshman rookie from the Cutters may have thrown that ITT, I agree with you on that. The Cutters are deep between Thiery, Schwedland, Guyon, and Coulter. I would watch out for Guyon and Coulter, one a freshmen and the other a sophomore but how will they do on race day when the pressure is on? But BKB is just as deep and has more experience Same goes for SAE’s rookies who are much weaker. BUT the point is that ITTs don’t mean shit, the track is better at night, some people have bad days, and some people throw their ITT to not show anything which more than just the Cutters rookie did, JETBLACH is notorious for that. All that matters is race day, no one remembers who got first in quals but who got first in the actual freaking RACE!!!!! My top five for the RACE:
1. SIGEP (DARKHORSE)
2. Cutters (have no true sprinter, Schwedland can’t do it but maybe the rookie is, who know)
3. BKB (Xavier makes dumb mistakes to often)
4. BETA (solid team that seems to have it together)
5. Goats (solid team with lots of experience but will probably fall off of the lead lap and take a solid 5th)
If 1 good ITT doesn’t prove anything how did Thiery gain all of his “credibility”? He won as a sophomore, but hasn’t done anything since yet he’s seen as one of thee top riders in the field.
@TOSH
Fucking AMEN!
I agree, but the ITT does prove something. Xavier is one of the top riders on the track, there are many others though. There are good rookies, BKB has two strong ones between Will and Kevin, SAE has some solid looking guys, and the Cutters have a fast pair of rookies in Guyon and Coulter. At the end of the day, no one can predict what will happen on race day, there are strong teams, any of the strong teams can win and any of them can get a flat or wreck so no now knows who will win.
When are people going to realize that picking the winner of the race is futile. Pick your top 5 teams and call it a day. Too unpredictable
I almost ate it bad during my ITT! I will not be riding in Miss and out, due to safety concerns. Spoke with my team and my parents and they agree. Dear Indiana University and IUSF please FIX THE TRACK somebody gets killed.
Fix what on the track? It’s a cinder track. If you aren’t capable of keeping your bike up then that’s a you problem. Track was a bit loose for ITTs but there’s nothing needing fixed. Go ride the road if your too scared of a little tire slippage in the turns.
It used to be a cinder track, now it’s a dirt track. FIX THE TRACK!
I think he/she means “before somebody gets killed” but I absolutely agree
I’m in! FIX THE TRACK!!!
Top 5 Race Predictions:In No order
BKB
SigEp
Betas
Forest
3PH
Not choosing a winner or order. But 5 teams I’d say to watch out for. Cutters are too inconsistent. Bears and Goats should be near these 5 teams
FIX THE TRACK. It’s garbage
Is the track garbage or just your handling? Seeing how only 1 person actually crashed Wednesday I’d say the latter
How does one crash during an Individual Time Trial?
I’m not sure Rusty, ask the cutter rider who went down.
I was down on the track last year, it was great, cinders evenly spread. This year the entire inside lane is dirt. Cinders have been pushed up. I only saw 1 rider go down, but almost every rider had a problem in the turn with the loose dirt. Several almost ate it at speed. Point is, if this is happening during an ITT, no way a pack at race speed doesn’t wipe out, it only takes one wiggle to cause that chain reaction. At ITT’s everyone was barely hanging on in the turn. Seems like an easy enough fix though, I am sure the Student Foundation is on it.
IUSF was on it but AB cancelled the plan to resurface the track because the new cinders would be synthetic. Cant use real cinders anymore because EPA regulations. These tracks should be resurfaced every 4 or 5 years. Ours hasn’t been in over 15.
Problem isn’t the lack of cinders, or real vs. Synthetic, there are piles of cinders piled up 2 – 6 inches deep around in the pits and in the banks of the turns (way too deep to ride in)
SOLUTION: Sweep cinders that are already there (my nature loving friends) out side in, cover (evenly) the cinder-less dirt hot mess inner track, eliminating the 2-6 inch un-rideable conditions in the outer track. Apply more judiciously in the problem areas and turns.
Roll the entire track , as long as it takes to pack the cinders in, and voila, you have a perfect track, a safe track, last year’s track.
If not, good luck because your entire year of training and effort will be for naught when riders start going down in the dirt and take u out. Wanna turn it into a luck fest,then do nothing.
The liability of not fixing the track puts the future of the race in jeopardy.
If this is not done then theither powers that be don’t care about the future of the event and most importantly, they don’t care about our safety.
The track was regraded last year and is raked, rolled, and watered on a daily basis. Times this year are a hair faster than the historical average for men and are faster than the average for women.
Learn how to ride your bike.
May be fast a times a in spots, but with any kind of rain it is a very loose and very dangerous surface. Under any condition,
it will not sustain a pack at race speed. Remember that when your team gets taken out due to surface not competition.
Scary version, I agree with above, you let someone get hurt (again)
1. Without every effort being made by IUSF to make the track as safe as possible ( Which clearly is not the case)
2. Blame the next track condition related Rider injury on ” Rider bike handling skills”
I agree that because of inherent liability the future of the race will be in jeopardy.
FIX THE TRACK! PUT RIDER SAFETY FIRST!
MNO:
1. Krahulik
2. Figg
3. Martinez
1. Bignal
2. Bennett
3. Huibregtse
The horrible track continues to take victims. #fixthetrack
In an event that forces bike racers to be very fast in close conditions, the track is to blame!
Track was perfect for MNO today. It’s a cinder track, not every day is going to be hard packed and fast. Today is an obvious example of the track being fine for riding and racing.
SRAM Boys looked really strong yesterday. So much depth I’d be shocked if we didn’t see them second wheel on lap 199
SRAM boys?
EP, bruh
SigEps run extremely deep this year. Even without Charlie they are still a dangerous team. It should be no surprise to see them place high. Personally, I have them as a lock to place top four, but I might be a little high on them after watching yesterday.
Oh those are the guys training on race day bike set ups, really stupid idea. Butt end of the top ten for them. #falseconfidence
So on the men’s side the riders took it to the presumptive winner in a decisive move and kept the lead for the win, and on the women’s side the riders waited for the presumptive winner to make their move and when they did couldn’t respond. I guess the moral of the story is (and a good explanation write up in IDS) take a chance and mix things up.
Glad that Theory rode with balls. Hopefully he can do that on race day and not give up in turn one of lap 200 like in 2015.
Cutters, in a show of bravado, fair play and supreme confidence, nobly elected to only send one representative from the quarter-finals to the semi-finals after deeming it unsporting to win with the unrefined brute force “tag-team” approach utilized by last year’s victors.
BKB began with a “more is more” approach to quarter-finals and sent forth 5 riders to the semi-finals. Once ensconced in the semi-finals they realized that their inevitable victory would be hollow should they continue on their course and simply overwhelm with their superior numbers. In a face saving gesture BKB quietly exited the back of the back in an orderly fashion once finals commenced.
SAE labored under the misinformed presumption that finals would be scored as a point a lap tempo race.
UPDATED – 2017
Sub 2:20.00 ITTs:
1. 2:15.78 2005 1st H. Arnesen
2. 2:17.24 2016 1st J. Krahulik
3. 2:17.68 2006 1st H. Arnesen
4. 2:17.86 2005 2nd M. Davis
5 2:18.25 2009 1st E. Young
6. 2:18.65 2012 1st RJ Stewart
7. 2:18.94 2007 1st S. Land
8. 2:19.24 2007 2nd A. Bishop
9. 2:19.42 2017 1st X. Martinez
10. 2:19.60 2016 2nd L. Tormoehlen
11. 2:19.69 2005 3rd C. Luekens
12. 2:19.70 2005 4th S. Land
13. 2:19.75 2008 1st I. Neff
14. 2:19.94 2015 1st N. Thiery
Certainly, many riders in the 1980s have gone or would have gone sub 2:20 but IUSF’s online records only go back to 1994 for ITTs.
This is lazy research bud. Kurt Gensheimer went 2:18.88 in 1998 (record at the time) for Acacia and Greg O’Brein went 2:19.91 in 98 for Dodd’s House. The 1999 results are missing but Todd Smith (Theta Chi) beat Kurt Gensheimer in 1999 and may have also been under 2:20 but could not find any google results on that.
Appreciate the corrections. Too bad posts can not be edited.
UPDATED – 1994-2017 (excluding 1999- Todd Smith winner )
Top 15 Sub 2:20.00 ITTs:
1. 2:15.78 2005 1st H. Arnesen
2. 2:17.24 2016 1st J. Krahulik
3. 2:17.68 2006 1st H. Arnesen
4. 2:17.86 2005 2nd M. Davis
5 2:18.25 2009 1st E. Young
6. 2:18.65 2012 1st RJ Stewart
7. 218.88 1998 1st Kurt Gensheimer
8. 2:18.94 2007 1st S. Land
9. 2:19.24 2007 2nd A. Bishop
10. 2:19.42 2017 1st X. Martinez
11. 2:19.60 2016 2nd L. Tormoehlen
12. 2:19.69 2005 3rd C. Luekens
13. 2:19.70 2005 4th S. Land
14. 2:19.75 2008 1st I. Neff
15. 2:19.91 1998 2nd G. O’Brein
Anyone have full MNO results?
Data seeker, They should be at this link which is the IUSF results page.
Click to access 2017%20MNO%20Completed%20Bracket.pdf
I can tell you that both winners won fairly comfortably, Bignal more-so than Thiery. Of course multiple wrecks on the guys side which would lead me to believe the women have better bike handling skills.
Place Team ITT’s MNO Total
1 Black Key Bulls 16 16 32
2 Sigma Phi Epsilon 31 29 60
3 Cutters 21 45 66
4 3PH 57 30 87
5 Gray Goat 58 31 89
6 Bears 116 31 147
7 Sigma Alpha Epsilon 123 29 152
Place Team ITT’s MNO Total
1 Kappa Alpha Theta 13 14 27
2 Delta Gamma 26 18 44
3 Alpha Omicron Pi 29 23 52
4 Phi Mu 41 34 75
5 SKI 65 24 89
6 Melanzana 58 35 93
7 Alpha Chi Omega 83 36 119
Great numbers by Theta. They have been the most consistent team for some time. The other teams always seem to be chasing in spring series. Only way either Theta or BKB don’t win spring series is if they don’t show up for team pursuit. Last time BKB won the race they were wearing white too.
Interesting that on the men’s side it’s overwhelmingly independent teams at the top and conversely for the women.
Surprised that Teeter isn’t stronger and in the mix after last years performance. I thought the bulk of the team remained from last year?
It would be nice to see the year and experience of each rider on the IUSF site.
Do not get caught up in series event numbers in terms of who will win the race. Theta and BKB’s depth mean little if they can’t attack and destroy DG or other men’s teams with better sprinters. Theta looks like Teter post 2011. After 2 wins they dominated the series events for the next few years but kept getting beat by teams with better sprinters. Teter graduated their race team last year and has a new coach so the program is pretty much new outside of a few alumni. They have promising rookies so next year would be a better indicator for them.
DA, I was only referring to spring series. Agreed that too much can happen in the race. I was under the impression that last years Teeter team would be back.
If all top teams make it to the final lap I would think the top three so far in both men’s and women’s will be favorites to win. Looking forward to Team pursuit this weekend.
Based on results from ITT’s it looks like BKB and Theta have the most depth on each side.
Women’s side is quite tight with Theta, DG and AOP having all four of their fastest riders in the top 20, with DG having five riders in the top 13. Those three teams dominate the speed that will be on the track.
BKB have four riders in the top 11, Sig Ep have theirs in the top 19. Cutters and 3PH have two in the top 20. SAE after Krahulik in the 2 spot have barely crack the top 40 with their second rider. So BKB and Sig Ep look fastest on paper. SAE are going to have to work hard to get Joe to the finish line.
FT,
I don’t think your data is right. Cutters had a strong showing at ITT’s with their top 5 riders. Are you talking about Miss n Out where they did much worse as a team but Thiery won? For Itt’s it’s BKB then Cutters. For Miss n Out, BKB was stacked in the semi’s and finals but still couldn’t place in the top 3. That has to be a concern for them and a reason to attack with everything they have in the race. Martinez may have the best ITT but if he’s not a top sprinter they could end up 4th
I may have read it wrong but this is what I have. Position for top four from each team in ITT.
BKB 1,4,10,11
Sig Ep 5,9,14,19
Cutters 6,8,22,58
3PH 7,17,30,38
Gray Goat 3,25,28,47
SAE 2,39,95
Theta 2,3,8,16
DG 6,9,10,11
AOP 4,7,17,20
Ski 5,22,36,45
AXO 12,30,38,39
The Twitter ITT’s results listed Cutter’s Schwedland 5th with a 2:24 but he actually crashed and DNF.
He did a 2nd run but refused to follow the rule of passing on the outside so we was DQ’d.
Not so sure that he refused, but I did hear him call the inside line as he was entering turn 1.
Calling inside in an event where it’s specifically stated you have to pass on the outside is refusing to follow the rule.
There’s too much randomness in MNO for it to be an accurate predictor of race success. ITT’s and Team Pursuit over history have proven to be statistically relevant. Do they guarantee a win? No, but chances are those teams will do well.
Top-3 in MNO:
3. Riley Figg–Wright/Bears finished 5 laps off of the leaders last year. Hopefully they improve this year and finish only two laps down from the leaders to give Riley a shot to bunch sprint for top-10.
2. Joe Krahulik–he will have to ride 100+ laps to keep his team in contention and be the sprinter on lap 200. Much different than a mno scenario. Not impossible as demonstrated by Luke last year, but rumors abound in the SAE house that Joe has stagnated and lost his 2016 fitnes.
1. Theory–Finished for cutters in 2015. Literally gave up crossing the start/finish line at lap 199. Not a teammate I would want finishing no matter how well he did in mno.
Smart money is on bkb and sigep. Both have won in the last four years. Both have teams with deep fitness. Both have multiple smart riders.
Luke T rode 65 laps last year. Where are the Delt guys that picked up the other 135. Are they going to defend?
Schwedland will be fine and ready for the race. I see Thiery’s “balls” deflate a little each day leading up to the race as the sharks start circling.
When was the last time a Miss n Out champ was benched for the final sprint? Last year Thiery wasn’t even their set up guy and was replaced by a joker that wears daisy duke jeans shorts and eats soup all day.
In the last five years, none of the riders who won mno went onto win the race. You are an intelligent rider if you make it to semis/finals. Other than that, mno is a terrible race predictor. It’s too variable.
6 of the last 7 women’s races have been determined by the miss n out champ and you say it’s a terrible predictor?
The race is unpredictable because of crashes but Miss n Out is a predictor of a field sprint if they make it that far. The guys race is slightly more variable than the girls race due to length and potential for more wrecks.
Look at the girls MNO results/race. How could you get any closer to perfection than that? Even 2nd and 3rd place falls in line much of the time. Face it, No one is beating Bignal in a field sprint this year. They are going to have to find another way to win.
2010- 1st, 1st
2011- 1st, 1st
2012- 1st, 1st
2013- 1st, 1st
2014- 1st, 2nd
2015- 1st, 1st
2016- 1st, 1st
Before this streak of 5 years with them men’s race being different, the Miss n out champ won 8 out of the previous 11 races. You can’t teach fast twitch but sometimes those guys are tired at the end or crashed out by then and the best bike racer wins.
I don’t think Thiery will win a big field sprint but to not even ride him in the sprint would be a big deal if they end up coming in 2nd or 3rd.
The girls race is so easy to predict that they really need to think about making it at least 150 laps. may as well go to 200.
Dodds Alum sounds like Tom S. Get a life, bro.
Who is Tom S? That creepy old guy who lurks around the track and criticizes college kids 60 years younger than him?
I guess Cutters forgot to bring their balls to Team Pursuit.
Thats unfair. Cutters had a hard prelim time draw. They had to go when the winds were 20+mph. They would have won had the conditions been more reasonable.
I guess getting passed by BKB during the “Unfair” conditions showed how much stronger the Cutters are than everyone else
It’s not like 70% of the field had to go when the wind was 20mph plus. Stop making excuses and accept the fact the BKB spanked your asses as well as some other teams. Schwedland is the most overrated rider this year. The kid looks like Larry the Cucumber from veggie tales when he rides
Pretty sure @Wayne was joking
Congrats to BKB, they showed they are the overall strongest men’s team to start the race.
Again though, the women’s competition outdid the men’s. Don’t know the closest finish on the women’s side in team pursuit history, but this race would have made a fantastic promotional add for the race. The heat race earlier in the day between the two looked a little ragged, especially on DG’s side, with both teams loosing their fourth rider fairly early on. The 20 mph wind played havoc as both teams showed signs of cracking but managed to hang on to finish one-two in the heats to set up a rematch. By that time spring series was all wrapped up by Theta, so really neither team had anything to ride for other than pride and bragging rights.
With wind conditions calmed considerably from earlier in the day the track conditions were ideal for the showdown. DG, as they did in the heat came out faster in the first few laps and it held steady for about the next three to four until Theta dropped their fourth rider and really started to push. They slowly reeled in DG who kept their foursome intact. Around lap 9 Theta took a slight lead, and as in the previous race it looked like they would edge away to a win, but DG started their own fight to the finish line to end up getting all four riders across the line just as Theta was hitting the finish with their first. Just less than a second was the difference. DG was able to prove that they had the strongest team on the night, but congratulations go out to Theta on the most consistent performance through the spring season.
Strong odds on to think the winner of the race will be one of these two teams.
@Fast track – Thank you for the summary.
Which Team do you think has the best fans? Fiji aways seems to turn out big with the crop tops and AXO might be the loudest.
Gotta love a blacked out fan section full of red jumpsuits #DTDNEVERDIES
JETBLACH won’t finish in the top 15, waste of discussion. They looked horrible in TP
Yeah they are literally awful, be lucky to even hang on for first 50 laps.
Zollman wasn’t racing TP. Let’s see another top team ride without their best. SAE without Joe. BKB without Martinez. Cutters without Theory. I’m sure they wouldn’t race as well as they want either.
If Erin Zollman is your best, you’re in trouble.
Yeah cause girls can’t hang with guys so having Erin as a number one is a major problem.
On Sunday SAE showed can do with Joe. #Overrated #MaybeNextYear #TooBadToHaveBeenTanking
They sucked at team pursuit last year and look what happened. I’m sure their poor performance will inspire them to up their PED usage. Before the race
Will RC star Ben Gavette ever ride in the race? Senior can’t even hang on in TP. Sad!
Gavette has done more for this race than you ever will. Regardless of his cycling ability there’s no reason to disrespect him.
I second that!
Is there anything he’s done specifically to improve the race?
It takes an extremely small person to attack one of the kindest, most humble people in the Little 500 community. Hopefully you can find more constructive means to work through your insecurities in the future.
Post team pursuit I think it’s clear who the front runner is. Without a doubt BKB is riding with a target on their back. Those guys can spin and have great team chemistry. On the other hand SAE will only go as far as their rookies take them and Cutters need to focus on uniting as a group. The raw talent is there but working for each other and team chemistry seems a bit off from an outsider perspective. Lastly SigEp….woof. After a rough TP time we will see if the SRAM boys will recover.
Darkhorse contenders:
Grey Goat….they have experience and the legs to get it done.
Beta Theta Pi…..I mean hot damn they look good in those white skin suits.
BB – One of the worst posts I’ve ever read. You suck.
BB telling it how it is. Facts.
CSF FOR DA PODIUM FINISH #JesusWatts